Onething 2013

Back in 2013 (wow is already mid-February, I'm really behind on my posts), I went to a conference held by the infamous IHOP fellowship. If you haven't heard of them, they are a 24-hour prayer group which has branches in many states and countries and headquarters in Kansas City. There is a lot of controversy about the group though. For one thing, it is very Pentacostal/charismatic, which is controversial enough. But on top of that, there has been many rumors of cultish practices and problems (such as the murder of 2012), like aggressive leader Lou Ingle making dangerous statements such as the tornado that wiped out Joplin, MO was because of abortions. Needless to say, that statement and many others have caused a lot of backlash. Even more worrying is President of IHOP Mike Bickle, who has a precarious history with a major cult in the KC area. In 1992 he apologized for "being elitist" aka prideful (power to prophesize and heal the sick), and wanted to start anew. For now I will give Mike the benefit of the doubt and trust that God is working in his ministry.

So with all of this, why would I go? Seems like a pretty dangerous place to set foot in. But I truly believe that God can and was using that place for His glory, and if such a large body of believers were gathering only 30 minutes away from me, why shouldn't I go to have fellowship with them? Despite the fears and the controversy, God's kingdom comes first in my heart and I am compelled to love my brothers and sisters and worship in praise to His Holy name.

When I first arrived on the second-to-last day of the conference, I was greeted with what I could call "anti-IHOP" preachers, or sidewalk pastors. Most of them were actually from local churches and had a strong background in cessasionism, which states that all spiritual gifts of the Spirit manifested in the 1st generation disciples were lost over time, as evident in Acts in the Corinthian books, because those specific gifts were only necessary as a source of supernatural evidence of God's power. We in this modern generation have the Bible, and any person claiming to have the gifts is only coincidentally taking credit from God, who can still directly create miracles in this age. One of the preachers I met was Greg, a cop by day and a theologist by night. He firmly debated IHOP attendees that the Bible is the only primary source of the gospel, and any prophecy or "extra" knowledge that people of IHOP claim is heresy. Though he wasn't able to convince anyone who didn't already share his sola scriptura view, he did make a strong argument that almost 4 out of 5 people he interviewed cannot reasonably explain the gospel to him. I actually was a witness to this and felt really sad and burdened by this truth of American Christianity. Most of the attendees believe in God mostly due to feelings of passion and ecstasy (similar to what you see on stage) or personal experiences, but never bothered to apply the teachings of Jesus or bothered to sit down and understand the depth of the sacrifice made on the Cross. To these people, feelings seemingly from the Holy Spirit are enough.

After bidding Greg adieu, I went in and semi-immediately got stuck in the queue for the prophecy room. One of IHOP's most desirable features, one could wait in line for hours to be able to meet up with a person with the gift of prophecy, who can then interpret dreams or nudges into full blown predictions of the future. Since I don't believe in that kind of fortune telling stuff, I quickly left the line. After that I entered the bookstore. Similar to what I've seen in 2011, the majority of the books were from the Forerunner (almost Halo reference) store, with some universal Christian books lining one wall. One could see specific, but not all, books by Francis Chan and David Platt on display, which makes one wonder what was wrong with the other books. Why were they excluded? As surprising as the first time I saw it, there was a table devoted specifically for the End Times. Whether you are a pre or post-millennialist, that table only fuels the claims against IHOP that say IHOP and IHOP-EDU are fronts to building an elite army of Christian soldiers to lead God's followers into battle in Revelations. Kind of kooky but who knows. I'll hold out until more decisive evidence shows up.

In all honesty, one of the major reasons why I attended the second-to-last day was to hear Francis Chan. For someone who is so against cults, the prosperity gospel, and anything not based upon the Bible, why would he seemingly endorse IHOP with all its mixed messages? One only has to start listening to his message to see why. Here is a facebook message I posted almost immediately after the message:

Francis Chan just preached quite possibly the most dangerous sermon of this age, with so many pastors and churches ready to jump on him if he said even the tinest thing wrong, AND HE NAILED IT! WITH LOVE! Surprisingly, the was the best part wasn't even about that. All about Jesus.

Yes there were many who were watching the stream, including probably every notable radical/reformed pastor in the world, ready to disown or shake their heads in disappointment at Francis Chan. It was very clear that Francis was addressing these men in the first 10 minutes of his message, as well as teaching the story of the Gospel to the IHOPers, many I noticed were hearing it for the first time in full. He went on to criticize many bad theologies that are often held modern Christians, such as marrying a non-believer, having divorce, refusing to accept hell, and selectively ignoring wrath as part of God's character. Francis Chan then went on to subtlety criticize (with love btw) many of IHOP's core messages, such as shifting the focus of revival and prayer to expecting suffering and rejection, and miracles don't happen because God doesn't need them to work in our lives, using many Old Testament prophets as examples. He then ended on the note that alone time with Jesus (through Bible reading especially) was the richest experience he ever had, and trumps over any possible experience of elation praying with a multitude in a prayer room. Here is a brave man who is willing to rebuke many of his brothers and sisters at IHOP while still trying to hope that they can all truly set their priorities straight. In the words of C.S. Lewis, feelings are good, but they are not the greatest thing. God is. God is enough.

For me, I learned a lot from Francis Chan's sermon, which was very powerful and more meaningful than any of the emotion packed worship songs at the conference. It was also notable that the following night, Corey Russell really botched up the story of King David, and went back to the old IHOP message of bringing revival is important and more is better, totally contradicting Francis Chan's message and twisting Biblical context for an in-house purpose. To be honest, I still enjoy IHOP's prayer room and songs, as well as the rave fest for the countdown, the experience reaffirmed in me the idea to believe in God and the gospel through scriptural truth and reasoning, and to trust God independently of my feelings or my heart. I felt like many of the attendees were marginalizing who the Holy Spirit really is (the Helper and part of the Trinity), as well as boxing up Jesus for their own goals. Like Francis Chan, I will still call them my brothers and sisters, but I will also pray diligently that they are confident in their faith and trust God even in the darkest times when all feelings of closeness cease, and not be so impressionable and equate human emotions as voices from the Holy Spirit.

"You may have noticed that the books you really love are bound together by a secret thread. You know very well what is the common quality that makes you love them, though you cannot put it into words: but most of your friends do not see it at all, and often wonder why, liking this, you should also like that. Again, you have stood before some landscape, which seems to embody what you have been looking for all your life; and then turned to the friend at your side who appears to be seeing what you saw -- but at the first words a gulf yawns between you, and you realise that this landscape means something totally different to him, that he is pursuing an alien vision and cares nothing for the ineffable suggestion by which you are transported. Even in your hobbies, has there not always been some secret attraction which the others are curiously ignorant of -- something, not to be identified with, but always on the verge of breaking through, the smell of cut wood in the workshop or the clap-clap of water against the boat's side? Are not all lifelong friendships born at the moment when at last you meet another human being who has some inkling (but faint and uncertain even in the best) of that something which you were born desiring, and which, beneath the flux of other desires and in all the momentary silences between the louder passions, night and day, year by year, from childhood to old age, you are looking for, watching for, listening for? You have never had it. All the things that have ever deeply possessed your soul have been but hints of it -- tantalising glimpses, promises never quite fulfilled, echoes that died away just as they caught your ear. But if it should really become manifest -- if there ever came an echo that did not die away but swelled into the sound itself -- you would know it. Beyond all possibility of doubt you would say "Here at last is the thing I was made for". We cannot tell each other about it. It is the secret signature of each soul, the incommunicable and unappeasable want, the thing we desired before we met our wives or made our friends or chose our work, and which we shall still desire on our deathbeds, when the mind no longer knows wife or friend or work. While we are, this is. If we lose this, we lose all.”

― C.S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain 

Somehow, this is so deep that I'm going to spend this week pondering the entire meaning held within this passage.

Let me love and not be respected

Let me love and not be respected; Let me serve and not be rewarded;
Let me labor and not be remembered; Let me suffer and not be regarded.
'Tis the pouring, not the drinking; 'Tis the breaking, not the keeping
A life suff'ring to seek other's blessing. A life loving and true comfort giving.
Not accepting pity and concern. Not accepting, solace and applause;
Even lonely, even forgotten, Even wordless, even forsaken.
Tears and blood, my price for the righteous crown shall be; Losing all, my cost for a faithful pilgrim's life.
'Twas the life, O Lord, that You chose to live. In those days when on earth You walked,
Gladly suff'ring all injuries and loss so that all might draw near and repose.
I cannot see how much farther I shall go; Still I press on knowing there is no return.
Let me follow Your pattern so perfect and true, Bearing ingratitude without complaint.
In this time of trial, O my Lord, I pray that You'd wipe all my hidden tears away;
Let me learn, O Lord, You are my reward, Let me be others' blessing all my days.
-Watchman Nee

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 An old hymn written by probably the most famous Asian Christian of all time, that my home church used to sing very often, it tells us the life of what a Christian is to expect. It is a bit harsh, and completely glosses over any blessings God can provide to us here on Earth, but since each line was taken from a specific verse in the Bible (literally), there is a lot of truth to the life of a follower of Christ. Like how Christ was rejected and persecuted, we are to be rejected and persecuted. Like how Christ gave it all for us, how he died for us, we ought to die both to our selves and for our brothers and sisters (1 John 3:16).

Again it doesn't mean we have to be "lonely" or "forgotten" or even "forsaken," nor are we doing this to pay our due for our sins, but the Bible continuously mentions the cost of following Jesus.

I really hope my life doesn't end up like this, all alone, and from the looks of it God doesn't have that planned for me. But even if it does end up like this, now or in the future, let me be able to say "God is enough."

"Are you ready to be poured out as an offering? It is an act of your will, not your emotions. Tell God you are ready to be offered as a sacrifice for Him. Then accept the consequences as they come, without any complaints, in spite of what God may send your way. God sends you through a crisis in private, where no other person can help you. From the outside your life may appear to be the same, but the difference is taking place in your will. Once you have experienced the crisis in your will, you will take no thought of the cost when it begins to affect you externally. If you don’t deal with God on the level of your will first, the result will be only to arouse sympathy for yourself."
- Oswald Chambers

I guess a continuation of my last post. Coincidence.

Feelings

“The great thing to remember is that though our feelings come and go God's love for us does not.” - CS Lewis

Feelings are a blessing from God. They often transpire from of our actions and in situations in our lives. That doesn't mean our faith is dependent on our feelings or personal experiences. When we feel like we are filled with passion, we have a tendency to believe that God is near and that we are overflowing with the Holy Spirit. But when we walking through spiritually dark times, when it feels like there is no voice there to speak to us, and God's presence is nowhere to be found, we feel like we have lost all our faith and our spiritual walk is frozen in place.

"God’s presence is not the same as the feeling of God’s presence and He may be doing most for us when we think He is doing least."

- C.S. Lewis

 

I tell you the truth, our faith is strongest and the Holy Spirit is working hardest in us when we still stand firm and believe in times when we cannot hear God's voice. When a son of Korah, in Psalm 42, watched his father and most of his family all get swallowed up alive into the realm of the dead, and ridiculed by the Israelite community (v3), is still able to call God his living water, his rock, his savior, his faith was at its strongest. Even when he reminisced the times when he was an esteemed Levite (v4), praising and dancing in front of the ark, and his soul is now downcast, he still puts all hope in his God (v11).

“Do not be deceived, Wormwood. Our cause is never more in danger than when a human, no longer desiring, but still intending, to do our Enemy's will, looks round upon a universe from which every trace of Him seems to have vanished, and asks why he has been forsaken, and still obeys.” - CS Lewis

John Piper had an illustration about how our faith should be. He argues that our faith in the Lord is not determined by how much happiness we obtain from Him, but that even when you smash your car and watch your little girl fly through the windshield and hit the pavement dead, even after the most horrific events and through the deepest pain, we are able to say "He is enough," that is faith.

I can't help but remember the story of Horatio Spafford when I hear this illustration. On November 22, 1873, he lost his four daughters in a tragic ship collision and almost lost his wife as well. On his journey to the site of the crash, he wrote the hymn "It is Well with My Soul", a song that speaks so true of his feelings at the time, but also the state of his soul and the power of the gospel within him. You can find the whole story here.

“My feelings are not God. God is God. My feelings do not define truth. God’s word defines truth. My feelings are echoes and responses to what my mind perceives. And sometimes - many times - my feelings are out of sync with the truth. When that happens - and it happens every day in some measure - I try not to bend the truth to justify my imperfect feelings, but rather, I plead with God: Purify my perceptions of your truth and transform my feelings so that they are in sync with the truth.” - John Piper

I want to remind my brothers and sisters that even when all your feelings and personal experiences are stripped from you (or put against you), the gospel will still be, in some shape or form, whole in your life. It may look a little bare. It may not look like the incarnation of the gospel that you relate to the best. But it is still whole.

"'God is enough. He is good. He will take care of us. He will satisfy us. He will get us through this. He is our treasure. Whom have I in Heaven but you and on Earth there is nothing that I desire besides you. My flesh and my heart and my little girl may fail, but you are the strength of my heart and my portion forever.' That makes God look glorious!" - John Piper

"...being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." - Paul

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/us/book-explores-ways-faith-is-kept-or-lost-over-generations.html

I will keep this in my heart so that when I have kids, I can show them the love God and my own parents have shown me.

No other parents have served the local church more in Kansas City, and I am proud to have watched them give and give some more to the community since the time I was born.

Proverbs 17:6

Children’s children are a crown to the aged, and parents are the pride of their children.

Seeing Jesus in Everything: Seeing Jesus in Tangled

Seeing Jesus in Everything: Seeing Jesus in Tangled: At the risk of turning in my man-card I confess I watched Tangled again for the umpteenth time with my kids last night. I share this because...

This will be the first time I use this property (feels like tumblr), and also the first time I've seen someone tie in Tangled with the gospel. It actually makes sense too!

Faith in Christian Athletes

In lieu of the upcoming Super Bowl this Sunday, there has been quite a stir with the Seattle Seahawks and their declaration of "Jesus is better than the Super Bowl."

Here is a video of Pastor Mark Driscoll interviewing some of the players and coaching staff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8U_ewtHZdw

Even on the other side of the field, people are noticing the importance of faith in the player's lives, such as in the legendary quarterback Peyton Manning:

http://mindingthetruth.com/2013/12/30/peyton-mannings-christian-faith/

Most people who know me know that sports and watching sports isn't really a big part of my life. I rarely watch football (the only game I watched this season was the playoff game where the Chiefs lost to the Colts due to someone poking a voodoo doll), and the only reason was because there was nothing else to do at the Kansas City Airport back to Pittsburgh (watching the game helped me answer questions at PCCC apparently, so I see what God did there). That being said, I notice, or at least notice from other people's observations through social media, that faith has become more and more intertwined in American sports. Sure I believe that most of the players on the field in any sport in the US profess to be Christian, but it has become more and more hyped up through incidences like Jeremy Lin and Tim Tebow.

Somewhere in me a small part of me is skeptical, telling me all of this is fake and that God wouldn't be interested in sports, and that these people are just trying to pull God into their camps. But then, a larger part of me admits God's hand at work, using America's greatest idol to His advantage in revealing His glory in this country. I tell myself, "what if all of this is real? Then man, this could be the start of great change and revival in this country!"

The day when athletes becomes living testimonies for God and Christian leaders in the community would be a glorious day indeed.

"...story about a wealthy Englishman who bought a Rolls-Royce, the car Rolls-Royce was built as the car that would never ever ever break down. As so he bought this car at a hefty price, and he was driving it one day actually in France, and the car broke down. And so he called Rolls-Royce and said, 'uh, well the car you said would never break down has broken down.' And what they did immediately was put a mechanic on a plane and flew him to France, fix the car as fast as they could, and the mechanic flew back and the guy drove on. The guy expected to receive a bill. It's not often that someone will send a mechanic to you to fix your car and fly him back, so he's a wealthy man and could pay his bill, but the bill wasn't coming, so he called Rolls-Royce and he said, 'listen, I'd like to get this behind and pay my bill.' And the people at Rolls-Royce told that man, 'we're sorry sir, but we have absolutely no record of anything having gone wrong with your car.'

YES! To think that the Holy God of the universe has looked upon your life and my life based on the suffering servant and He pronounces, 'I have absolutely no record of anything ever having gone wrong in your life.' That is a scandal. Scandalous mercy."

- David Platt

PCCC ACF Retreat

Since I have like...I don't know, some 5-10 blog posts backlogged, I will keep this one short.

I went to the retreat without too high of expectations, as I averaged about 3 a year my undergraduate years, and I wasn't changed in any major way there. I learned a little bit here and there from the messages, got to know a few of my brothers and sisters a little better, and enjoyed just being away from the responsibilities of life (school...dishes etc).

There was a period during the prayer concert that I withdrew a little, falling back onto my weakness and wishing I wasn't so lonely and people knew me better. Then a graduate student from Rutgers came by and reminded me that we are a little older and wiser than our peers, and that it is our place to take initiative to guide and nurture those who come after us. He also spoke of his involvement with his new undergraduate community there, and coming from CMU's spiritually impressive ACF, it must have been quite a change of environment for him. So I recovered from desiring people to come and pray with me, and decided to stand on my two feet with the strength my Lord has given me, and sought those who God has moved me to comfort and guide.

Though this retreat may not have had a huge impact on my life or my walk with the Lord, I did see people who were radically changed, and see hearts revived where death once stalked. That is enough for me. That is enough.

Bystander Effect

Today I read an article (here) that recites 3 incidences of murder where countless bystanders watched as someone (in one incidence police officers) brutally beat another person to death. I recalled one morning while walking to my nanoparticles class, I witnessed two women scuffling on the ground near the intersection of Bayard and Craig Street. I obviously got there late, and didn't know what started the fight, and I stood frozen and unsure what to do. I watched as a fellow student walked right up to the ball of fists on the ground and took a picture on her phone only to walk away immediately after. Luckily the guard of Schenley House can running across the street and forcefully pulled one woman from the top of the other. She took her crying child nearby quickly away from the site, and the other woman exclaimed loudly what kind of person would attack a pregnant woman.

Again I recalled that even with shame, wondering if there was anything I could have done to help. If I were to see someone getting raped in front of me, would I intervene? I want to say "yes, immediately" but am I truly better than the many who watched Kitty get stabbed, then raped, and finally murdered?

"We need to teach well what love is, I mean come on, the most unsexy form of love in our culture is the love of the will that says 'I'm in this and I'm not going anywhere,' and instead our culture views that as 'oh you poor soul, you mean you don't have a bunch of emotive butterflies in your stomach every time you see this person? Well man God didn't want that for you, God would want you to feel that emotive love.' As someone who did lay on the floor and was completely helpless for 18 months and have his wife go 'I love you, I'm not going anywhere.' Let me tell you, It is a far sexier love to have someone see you when you got nothing to offer and are definitely not meeting any kind of their needs to say I love you than those butterflies would ever be. So you got to teach what love is, and you have to teach why this is a gospel issue." - Matt Chandler (from Social Justice and Young Evangelicals | John Piper, Matt Chandler, David Platt by Gospel Coalition)

"When I kissed my wife for the first time, I felt electricity flow through me, and now 35 years later I no longer feel that, because that feeling was just my ego, me being in love with the idea that a girl loves me...I would never ever want to go back to the shallowness of the feeling I had when I first kissed her." - Tim Keller

I Didn't Love My Wife When We God Married Though written by a Hasidic Jew in a non-religious way, this post of his has inspired changed the marriages of many Christians, Jews, and even Muslims alike.

After thinking about it, it is very obvious why the most sexy love appointed by Jesus through the scripture is considered the most unsexy by the world. The two just don't mix (the world hates God), and we need discernment to distinguish between the two standards of love.

Corey Russell: Revival is Jesus! Jesus is revival!
Francis Chan: Even when there is no revival, even when all there is rejection, suffering, and pain (as exemplified in the lives of the OT prophets), Jesus was there (he was the 4th man in the furnace).

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When Corey preached on Psalms 132 about how King David wanted to build a house for the Lord, and how the Lord was "impressed" and wanted King David to do it, I was like, "wait a minute...didn't God say no?" Great way to start a message on riling up people to growth the prayer movement of IHOP into the world.

Is God impressionable? I am not sure if King David ever impressed God, but God did find favor in him and loved him. Though God rejected King David's offer of building the temple because David's hands were too stained with blood (by God's commands mind you), God did pass the privilege to David's son Solomon (who did "impress" God with his answer to God's question on what his heart desired the most). Nevertheless, God called David "a man after my own heart," which is one of the chiefest honors anyone has gotten in the Bible as King David never put the fear of man over the fear of God.

What is the definition of revival anyways?

“…for many years I simply refused to listen to the Christian answers to this question, because I kept on feeling that, ‘whatever you say and however clever your arguments are, isn’t it much simpler and easier to say that the world was not made by any intelligent power? Aren’t all your arguments simply a complicated attempt to avoid the obvious?’”

“My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I gotten this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such violent reaction against it? A man feels wet when he falls into water, because man is not a water animal: a fish would not feel wet. Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if I did that, then my argument against God collapsed too — for the argument depended on saying that the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my private fancies. Thus in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist — in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless — I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality — namely my idea of justice — was full of sense. Consequently, atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.”

C.S. Lewis

Poles

Once there was a father who brought his daughter to the parking lot of a nearby water park, empty because it was closed for the season. They were there to teach her how to ride a bike.

The father thought, "there is so much asphalt here, she is going to be a bike champion!"

The daughter pointed to a single object in the parking lot, "what is that?"

"That is a pole," the father replied.

"Am I going to hit it?"

"No you won't."

"I'm going to hit it..."

The father positioned his daughter and the bike upright, and let go. The girl bee-lined toward the pole.

BUMP

The father rushed over to his daughter, who had already started tearing up with a pouted lip.

"I told you I was going to hit the pole!"

"You only hit the pole because focused on it."

(Adapted from Dr. Charles Lowery)
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The moral of the story is there are many poles in our life, things that are necessary and take away from our relationships with God and with other people, that we focus on. Here is an example that I've encountered recently that surprised me.

Division over Christian Music:

This week marks the first week I've heard anyone call songs by Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman, and Kristian Stanfill "secret guilty pleasures" (source - JS Park). I didn't even know that there could be "fake" Christian songs and "real" Christian songs (source - Michael Gungor). Who determines what songs are supposed to bring glory to God and what songs do not? What is wrong with songs that sound similar to pop culture songs? Historically many Christian hymns were based off the tunes of that time period, some literally the same tune but different lyrics.When did superior art and creativity directly correlate with how efficient it brings people to God or how sincere/honest the song is? Can a song even bring someone to God in the first place? I like what Jon Foreman says about this topic:

"You see, Jesus didn’t die for any of my tunes. So there is no hierarchy of life or songs or occupation only obedience. We have a call to take up our cross and follow. We can be sure that these roads will be different for all of us. Just as you have one body and every part has a different function, so in Christ we who are many form one body and each of us belongs to all the others. Please be slow to judge ‘brothers’ who have a different calling (source)."

When the Musicians and singers are anointed, the river of the Holy Spirit flows through the melody and the harmony, using the music to refresh and flood His people. Each note and each word are like fresh water in the middle of a desert. On the other hand, when the music does not have the touch of God, despite its beauty and careful arrangement, it feels hollow, empty, and dead. Only the Spirit of God can impart life. - Pablo Perez

A youth knelt down to pray and said, “God, I can sing so well I wish to sing for you. I can dance so well, I wish to dance for you. I can play music so well, I wish to play for you. I can think so well, I wish to invent for you. There are so much I can do for you. Please use all my giftings for your purpose and glory. I want to give you my best. God answered, “My child, thank you for willingly offering all your gifts to me. But those are not your best. Your best is your LIFE. Will you surrender your LIFE to me. When I have your LIFE, I have everything. I am interested in who you are not what you have. "What we are is God's gift to us. What we become is our gift to God." - Eleanor Powell

From how I see it, all music belongs to God, and music should be used to give Him praise (as stated in the Bible). Music, especially "Christian music," should be sung with God in mind and for God, not for ourselves. As I have said before, it is what our heart's desire is when we sing that determines whether the song is truly "Christian" or not; that we singing or listening it for God's sake instead of ourselves.

"Too many equate being emotionally moved by music as being moved by the Spirit, but these are not the same. Real worship happens when your spirit responds to God, not some musical tone. In fact, some sentimental, introspective songs hinder worship because they take the spotlight off God and focus on our feelings." - Rick Warren 

A reminder on the purpose of worship, not for the self-satisfying good feeling, or to appreciate a well played/put-together set, but to center our hearts and worship God. - Andy Kim

Anyways, here is a "cheesy" song by that "mainstream" guy Matt Redman that speaks about the VERY reason why we have Christian songs in the first place (his story here http://worshipleader.com/songstory/).

"The Heart Of Worship"

When the music fades
and all has slipped away
and I simply come.
Longing just to be
something that's of worth
that will bless Your heart.

I'll bring You more than a song,
for a song in itself
is not what You have required.
You search much deeper within,
through the way things appear,
Your looking into my heart.

I'm coming back to the heart of worship
and its all about You, its all about You, Jesus.
I'm sorry, Lord, for the thing I've made it
when its all about You, its all about You, Jesus.

King of endless worth,
no one could express
how much you deserve.
Though I'm weak and poor,
all I have is Yours,
every single breath!

I'll bring You more than a song,
for a song in itself
is not what You have required.
You search much deeper within,
through the way things appear,
Your looking into my heart.

I'm coming back to the heart of worship
and its all about You, its all about You, Jesus.
I'm sorry, Lord, for the thing I've made it
when its all about You, its all about You, Jesus.

It is not about the how well the music was arranged or delivered, its not about the how touching the lyrics are, its not even about the testimony behind the creation of the song. It is all about Jesus.

Through these quotes and remarks, I just wanted to point out that we as brothers and sisters in Christ should not let such a reason divide us. Focus on God's glory and don't sweat how God uses other people or callings.

http://jspark3000.tumblr.com/post/69174377028/remember-you-are-a-work-in-progress-looking

Remember, you are:
- A work in progress, looking towards the work finished, Jesus.
- Under construction, in a process, two steps forward, one step back.
- On a journey of faith, because faith is not a light-switch.
- A messy, gritty, raw, real, complicated creation called a human being, and no one should ever shame you for being human.  Jesus was one of us, too.
- Not defined by your mood, situation, or circumstance.
- Not defined by the “amount” of your faith, but rather by the perfect author of your faith who receives even your weakest stumbles towards Him.  It’s not about your grip, but rather the strength of the branch that holds you.
- So loved that God preempted your failures with the gift of His Son Jesus, who died to pay your price of Hell and who also died exactly for those times you would feel far from Him.
- Always allowed to approach the throne room of God with all your anxieties and fears and requests, no matter how petty, because God can handle your venting and clenching of teeth and He will not bite your head off.  It’s also His very grace and acceptance that begin to restore the broken pieces back together.
- A Christian, a profoundly broken person who has met Jesus the Messiah, who radically transforms you by being who he is: the Savior, Redeemer, King, Brother, Friend.
— J.S. Park

This is not a...law which we can escape...what is outside the system of self-giving is...simply and solely Hell...that fierce imprisonment in the self...self-giving is absolute reality - CS Lewis

Jesus has dealt with rejection. If Jesus has faced more rejection, abandonment, and pain than you ever could on your behalf, then you can face head-on the rejection of your past and the problems you are going through relationally right now with your head held high! When He is for you who can be against you? - Pastor Kyle Turner

Skeptical Christian

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"Prayer is an acknowledgement that God is in control over that person"- Darrin Patrick

Sometimes I walk down the street and wonder to myself whether I am passing by people who could become significant in my life. Could I be passing my future wife just like that? What if he could be a lifelong friend? I say to myself, "missed opportunities." But then I step back for a moment and realize that the people I did meet are there in my life because God put them there. The people I will meet will also be in God's control. So why do I worry? It is an act of mistrust. Believe in Him for He is all we need.